tell you a lot about a man. Is he lazy, greedy, needy, obedient or arrogant? Prayer
also says a lot about a man's thoughts on the divine. Does he truly believe
his public profession or does he secretly betray it?
of need can drive a person to their knees. Prayer is the ultimate "truth serum"
that cuts through all of the lies and self-deceptions we peddle. Confession
here, I believe in prayer and by no means do I want to denigrate it. It's just
that I find it a haven of poker-faced showmen living a charade
and a few that want to throw a pious parade for the cause.
Prayer Dilemma & Humility
if one concludes that there is no divine, it would be absurd for them to
consider prayer as an option. True atheists just don't pray. Suppose an
atheist with great need has exhausted all of his known earthly options except
one, ... prayer. Hypocrisy would be exposed if the atheist's need should drive
them into uttering a prayer; it would be arrogant for that person not to adjust
their public stance upon the divine in light of this.
expresses an attitude of humility, that one isn't super human and that you
don't possess all of the answers in life. It is refreshing to see expressions
of humility; it is the direct opposite of arrogance.
call yourself an atheist if you pray or have prayed as an atheist. Its
impossible to accurately measure atheism unless the following question is asked,
"have you prayed after identifying yourself as an atheist?" It's hard to
fathom the character of a man that has the gall to openly claim atheism all the
while knowing that prayer is an option or outlet when no one's watching.
- Greedy Prayer
give us health and love, we can buy all the rest" - Jewish Proverb
means that we all face vulnerability and will have needs. It just seems right
that we should embrace this reality rather than cowering from confronting
dreaded challenges that we daily face. I love the humility of prayer, but have a
problem with prayer being a refuge of cowards.
Like it or
not, social Darwinism is a reality that I wished weren't as matter of the fact
brutal as it is. I'm sure that I am not alone with this thought, but it just
doesn't seem right that a man too lazy to prepare or work has the audacity to
ask for something they are unwilling to work for. Sure they have need... I just
see them as greedy trying to snatch something they don't deserve that is
beyond their reach.
Prayer (Welcome to the world of Christian Atheism)
upon prayer in Matthew 6:6
thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy
is not a Christian. I don't believe that Jesus was divine. I do believe he is scarcely
historical and that the legend grew after his death. It is not my intention to
inflame or disrespect believers, but I believe Jesus would be "rolling in his
grave" if he were to see what takes place today under his name.
I had a
problem with prayer as a Christian minister, when taken public it was clear
disobedience to what Jesus taught. Prayer was miscast, rather than being a
means to God's "ear" it often was an "honorarium event"
meant for strategic purposes. While some would relish the opportunity, one
couldn't help but notice the fear and "preacher don't pick me" body
language when it was time to choose who was going to deliver the next prayer.
Prayer in public shouldn't be a "performance to impress or manipulate"
those listening; simply put, prayer is not for public
consumption, it is a private affair that has no business in public life.
There is nothing difficult
about the exegesis of prayer. Question, does the church not trust Jesus or do they simply
think he was lying about his intentions concerning prayer? The church is awash
in Christian atheism!
Christians discern simple instructions? Why stir up so many problems and head to
court over your "right" to practice unscriptural prayer?
happened to common sense? This essay presumes that there is something that
is beyond mortal man that defies human comprehension which we are unable to
define. I find it strange that Christianity defies their revelation about prayer
while some atheists practice secret prayer.
happened to pragmatism? I don't understand how a loving spouse's dogmatism
could be so certain as to rule out prayer to alleviate or reduce a loved one's
suffering. God hasn't been disproved, yet how can someone look into the eyes
of that loved one and say I refuse to consider prayer as an option and would
rather watch him or her die than to utter a prayer? That's being a bit too
obtuse. I'd hate to have to live with the thought that I watched a loved one
die having withheld an untried option that was left upon the table due to pride.
Try burying that one!
Prayer isn't a silly
something so freeing, so liberating being in the position of an unbiased former
minister looking at the secular/ religious activities transpiring in our world.
No, I am not against prayer and as a deist I experiment and respectfully
practice prayer. I will go on record and state that my wife and I have had a
significant prayer answered recently in our lives concerning our daughter.
I'll take a page from Jesus' idea on prayer and keep it private. The prayer
wasn't to Jesus; it was to God that I believe should be acknowledged... not
asserted as if one could have a personal relationship with or to profess to
actually know something about.
There is so
much hyperbole within prayer; it stems from theists with a revelation
point as an ex-minister isn't to ridicule the practice, as it is to point out
that society would progress if we could recognize a work of literature and
rightfully distinguish it from a "truth" from an ancient tribal god. I think
religion has its place in society and would be much better served if a dose of
reality prevailed and the clergy properly communicated those unrealistic
expectations/promises of prayer as literature.
to be a force for good it needs to free itself from unrealistic, unreachable
prayer expectations that serve to dash peoples hope. Religion should inspire,
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