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From my viewpoint, my
relatives were from great families, were devout Christians, and were good
natured people. In no way would they be subjects of God’s chastisement.
Obviously, coming from a Christian perspective you would want to know why God
would allow, cause or permit such a horrible event to take place? Since God is
in control then he had to give permission for this….right? God is sovereign,
isn’t he? A biblical example would be the story of Job.
Is God that desperate
for attention or for glorification?
I will ask some rhetorical
questions here. How would God be glorified in a situation like this? Is God that
desperate for attention or glorification that he needs to be cruel and or unfair
to attain it? Why would God give the gift of life and take it away so quickly?
There is probably no situation or event that would be more difficult for a
Christian minister to deal with than a situation something like this. As an
exminister, I saw how cruel the God of the bible was to two very special people
by taking away their child. The God of the bible didn’t have to allow this to
happen!
Chapter and
Verse proof: God confesses to beating his sheep!
There
is another type of cruelty from God towards my relatives (or for any Christian)
involved here. It is a rather subjective topic about the matter of God
chastising his children. Subjective in interpretation to those who are suddenly
in the midst of suffering. Ministers use this text when they need it. Ministers
use this when a member doesn’t tithe or give or is in opposition or rebellion
to whatever that minister is trying to accomplish. You need to read Hebrews
chapter 12 to try to get an understanding of this biblical concept.
Hebrews 12: 5 – 8 (KJV)
5.
And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as children, MY
SON, DESPISE NOT THOU THE CHASTENING OF THE LORD, NOR FAINT WHEN THOU ART
REBUKED OF HIM.
6. FOR WHOM THE LORD LOVETH HE CHASTTENETH, AND SCOURGETH EVERY SON WHOM HE
RECEIVETH.
7. If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as sons; for what son is he
whom the father chasteneth not?
8. But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then ye are
bastards, and not sons.
God will get to beat you sometime in your life, that is if he
doesn't decide to kill you
According
to the bible, God will “get you” if you “get out of line with him”. This
is what the verse 7 just told you “for what son is he whom the father
chasteneth not?". Did you know that someone calculated the number of people
that the God of the bible had killed within the covers of the bible itself. The
conservative estimate was a staggering 32.9 million people had been killed! This
is an excellent article posted by Steve Wells,
here is the link for you to examine.
T he most cruel
example that I'm aware of is that God had 2 she bears come from out of the woods
and kill 42 little children because these children had mocked Elisha for having
a bald head (2 Kings 2: 23-24). I'm laughing at the absurdity of this and cry
because of cruelty and thirst for blood that the God of the bible has towards
people. I'm embarrassed that I once taught others that the bible is the word of
god. God is a brutal murderer! Can he not take a joke about some little kids
mocking his prophet?
Christians are
ashamed about this teaching
Biblical apologists would
cringe if you introduced this subject at such a delicate time of grief like my
relatives had. I agree with their feelings and feel it would be totally
inappropriate as well. One thing that is evident here is that Christians are
ashamed about this biblical teaching about God chastising his children. If they
were not ashamed then they could mention it at anytime. But being ashamed and
ignoring it doesn’t lessen the burden for any Christian whom has had something
horrible happen to them. Put yourself in their shoes. You just suffered a
horrible time, and every Christian that you know has heard their preacher preach
a sermon from this Hebrews text. Imagine what they must be thinking about you?
Once again I will introduce a few rhetorical questions here. What did they do to
deserve this? It must be pretty bad? Will they learn from this experience and
get right with God? Can they look you in the eye again and not think about this?
Or worse yet, they will pity you!
Advice to currently
suffering Christians
Christians
that read this know exactly what I am writing of. Those outside of faith must
think that this is a “very sick” thought process and I would agree with
them. Now, let me speak to any Christian whom has suffered some horrible or
difficult times. Forget about what you think that someone else must or could be
thinking about your case, if you can. First, who can know the mind of God (his
thought processes)? God’s only sure communication to mankind was the bible and
you weren’t around when the bible was being written. So whatever happened to
you has no paper trail in the bible, if you know what I mean (you came along
2,000 years later). Even if you were “out of God’s will” (let us suppose
that my relatives were) and God did decide to chastise them. Was your “crime”
as bad as taking someone's life? Probably not! Then your god of the bible lacks
good judgment for not making your punishment fit your crime! God must have
gotten carried away in his anger and lost control of his judgment. Even if you
go by Old Testament standards like and “eye for an eye” the god of the bible
isn’t fair in his dealings and quite harsh!
According to
your bible, God allowed this to happen to you.
I try to make people think with most
everything that I write. There are untold number of incidents that happen to
Christian people around the world daily. And whenever something “bad”
happens to a Christian it cannot be a coincidence since God controls by
providence what happens to his people. Since coincidence is ruled out of the
equation then there is no other choice except for that Christian to find out
what the reason behind this bad event happening to you. Dear Christian, from
the exministers perspective you should want to appease the anger of God by
avoiding whatever makes him angry to prevent future chastisement. Or, you
should await the future blessings that you will receive for God using you like
he did since you did nothing wrong. For example, Job for his long suffering!
Once again, the exminister notices that people have to wait for another false
promise that should be fulfilled like Job’s was BEFORE he died so that he
gets to enjoy it while they live here on earth! Who is kidding who, we all know
that the “spin masters” who wrote the bible use the book for control of
people who are willing to be enslaved by the bible’s contents. Just another
example of cruel and bad psychology of the bible.
Someone needs to knock that
smiley face facade off of your cruel religion!
Is
that Christian in the molding process like a piece of pottery? Are they being
chastised for something that they did that God didn’t approve of? All the
Christian apologist can say at these times is (we don’t know) and this is a
very convenient answer for them but woefully insufficient as an explanation. We
both know that Christianity doesn’t have the answer. It is perfectly OK for
Christianity to leave a couple like my relatives “twisting in the wind” with
some believers feeling God’s providence or chastisement is at work upon those
in grief. People like me feel that someone needs to knock that smiley face
facade off of your cruel religion!
Christianities
answer for times like these?
C hristianities two
most useful “escape plans” are to act as if they didn’t hear and avoid
whatever threatens them(ignore); and throw up their hands and say that they do
not know the answer to whatever threatens them(ignorance). Yes, very convenient
and effective for people who are sheep like. But what about those of us who
demand a reasonable explanation? They are often told by their minister or leader
that they will have to get back to them. This is just another form of their
avoidance and IF THEY EVER GET BACK to you they still won’t have a sufficient
answer for someone who isn’t sheep like. You can be waiting a very long time
for their reply. Tell them you will withhold your tithe and offering money until
they answer you! (Humor)
Reasonable
people see the big picture here. Simply stated the bible isn’t divine, far
from it. The bible is full of made up stories, bad psychology and a great cover
for those with character issues of their own. If these people (Christian
leaders) had character they would resign their positions and find an honorable
way to make a living.
Christianity
isn’t true, doesn’t work in real life and unworthy of acceptance!
Now for you dear
Christian! What in the world are you waiting for? In real life Christianity
doesn’t work. The bible is just plain old bad literature and dangerous when
used as a psychology text! Did you join Christianity for God to look after your
well being? Now you know that God is actively viewing your behavior and you are
subject to chastisement when you do wrong things. Your minister doesn’t have
the answers to real life situations. They are just hoping that you “keep
putting money in the plate” and don’t ask too many or the wrong type of
questions. Go ahead ask one to them as a test, then notice their response to it.
This time, don’t be a gullible sheep when they give you that same old
insufficient line. You must get past this mentality of “God will get you”
because God won’t get you. God won’t get you because who is to say that
there is a God out their anyway? The great secret out there is that their isn’t
any God out there like the bible describes.
If
you have made it this far in your journey then you can begin to understand why I
and all the other exministers in the world left Christianity. Exministers who
left for intellectual reasons have a heart for people and for good conscious
reasons won’t subject you as a pawn to this organized chess game. Christianity
isn’t worth anymore of your time, talent or money. If you haven’t done so
already, read the link on my website on “How Religion Robs People”. You can
stay in Christianity and be a sheep (I call it you choosing to be a victim), or
choose freedom from religion and go out and enjoy life!
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