You Can’t Have it Both Ways
Three brief discussions on difficult Christian topics.
1.
Faith/Reason
Oxymoron
2.
Gay/Straight
Sexuality
3.
Christian
Castaways…C.S. Lewis example
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All right
Christian, I will accept your definition of faith as the reason why you believe
what you believe in. You should grant to me the same courtesy and accept my
belief in reason for me being a religious atheist. The basic difference between us is that I believe in one less
god than what you believe in. I have
considered being a “evangelistic atheist” at times in the past. I have since
abandoned this idea and am content to reaching out only to those that are open
to reason.
I haven’t
forgotten that I once held Christian beliefs for 23 years.
Some atheists feel that Christians are really stupid people.
I beg to differ with these smug atheists. Many Christians have never been
presented with a proper case against Christianity.
And once presented with this information, it may take a long length of
time to digest what was found. I had
once considered enrolling at Liberty University to pursue a degree in
apologetics. Had I had done this; I would have had to confront a difficult
oxymoron. This is the absurd idea
of faith and reason co-existing together in perfect harmony. Dear
Christian, you want to be accepted for believing by faith, and you want skeptics
to accept your reasoning that is built upon the foundation of faith. This is
amazing! You switch back and
forth between faith and reason whenever it pleases you to do so. Once you choose faith to understand the Bible. True reason becomes your enemy. Reason is the cause that has made all of us ex-christians abandon our journey of faith. Christian apologetics can give reasons for the hope that their belief brings. But all these reasons are based upon faith….not true reason. As I
earlier mentioned, I don’t think that Christians are stupid. That is until
they start to earnestly contend with a skeptic with an irrational mixture of
faith and reason. Faith and reason
don’t mix! Christians accept
faith, skeptics don’t. Faith overrides the domain of reason (logic, science,
history) in the Christian mindset. When a skeptic uses reason, the Christian
presses their “mute button” of faith to muzzle the message of reason that
was delivered. Basically, this explains why I am not an “evangelistic atheist”. Christians deny reason; skeptics deny faith. The result is a standoff and a waste of time. The problem here is a standard ethics breach by the Christian. The Christian denies reason when it suits their needs, but then tries to use reason when they have found someone that allows them to get away with it. If you (Christian) deny reason, then don’t be a hypocrite and try to later use it! If you’re against reason, be consistent, and don’t use it to convert others to your religion! I am
content with Christians riding their “faith bus”, but don’t get the idea
that I will allow you to steal a little reason from me when we have discussions.
You chose faith to determine your path; I chose reason to determine mine. Dear
Christian, you can’t have it both ways! GAY/STRAIGHT SEXUALITYI must
admit that I cannot understand the sexual attraction between members of the same
sex to each other. I am only
attracted to women and I sense that this is the way that it was meant to be.
When you discuss the argument of design (sexually), it just seems natural
that members of the opposite sex were made for each other. Please remember this last point. I think
it is awful that people dislike and actually hate another person because of
sexual preferences (gay/straight). Gay people are one of Christian
Fundamentalists favorite pet peeves. Yea, I know, they hate the sin, but love
the sinner (yea…. whatever). Gay
people claim that they have natural sexual desires for each other. If this is
what they say they feel then who should deny a subjective claim such as this?
Usually, the person that says this isn’t natural, but it is, in fact, a
personal choice that a person makes is normally a Christian practitioner.
Now, let me interject a thought here that I have never heard anyone else
bring up or defend when I bring it up. Dear
Christian, what do you do when a person is born with both male and female
genitalia? You know a hermaphrodite
(a individual in which reproductive organs of both sexes are present). They were
created this way according to your worldview. That same argument of design is
now thrown into chaos. This person can choose either sex for a sexual partner
because they were born with male and female genitalia. Would you deny this?
Or would you just deny them their sexuality? There are many things that people may dislike in the world. I want to distinguish between sexual crime and preference here. But isn’t it time to stop the hatred and learn to be tolerant of someone that holds a different viewpoint than ourselves?Dear Christian, did your god make a mistake with the
hermaphrodite? Your Bible is
clearly against homosexuality. Your Bible says God created male and female, not
some combination. If you say that your God didn’t make a mistake then your
Christian God allows for situational sexual ethics. Either way, it seems that
your God isn’t as concerned about sexuality as the Christian pleasure police
are. Dear Christian, you can’t have it both ways!
THE SUBJECT OF CHRISTIAN CASTAWAYS I
laugh to myself when I hear Christians try to explain why a member would leave
the fold of Christianity to be a skeptic. In
my case, I haven’t heard any Christian repeat back to me the truth on why I
left. As Dan Barker has well said, “I just lost faith in faith”.
Don’t expect a Christian to state this as the reason for a castaway
leaving the faith. Why can’t Christians be moral and just simply tell the
truth when asked about someone who left the faith for intellectual reasons?
Being an ex-minister for eight years now affords me the opportunity to hear
about these castaways. Castaways
are a term that Christians will label an ex-christian. Castaways
are not supposed to happen. The
Apostle Paul was concerned about himself becoming a castaway. Some Christians feel that castaways never were a true Christian, they simply lived a life
of deception. The main
arguments you hear when Christian’s discuss castaways are: 1)
“you never really had it” 2) Tares and the wheat
3) Parable of the seeds 4)
Calvinistic debates 5) Hebrew 6:1-8
which states that it is impossible for a believer to fall away and to come back. One thing
that I never hear when this subject arises is the case about C.S. Lewis.
C.S. Lewis abandoned his faith and became an Atheist, only to come back
to Christianity after some time. You don’t believe me? Go to Wikipedia and
type in his name and read their biography about Mr. Lewis. According to the
Bible (Hebrews 6:1-8), C.S. Lewis did something that was impossible to do. Dear
Christian, would you say that C.S. Lewis never had it?
Or do you claim C.S. Lewis as a Christian?
If so, then what will you do with people such as myself and all the other
people who were true believers that have abandoned their faith? Wait if you
want, but I am not coming back. Wither the case about castaways? Dear
Christian, you can’t have it both ways! Brian
Worley
Exminister.org Dec. 2007
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